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Verfasst: Sa 28. Mai 2005, 15:15
von Tom_H
Hoi Hoiner,
ein Upgrade meines Players (durch wen auch immer) ist natürlich eine Möglichkeit, die ich bereits in Betracht gezogen habe. Ich möchte nicht falsch verstanden werden, ein Upgrade des Opera ist nicht unbedingt erforderlich. Nur, jede Tuningmaßnahme würde mich zusätzliches Geld kosten.
Ein neuer Player z.B. der Doge 6201 wäre für mich fast kostenneutral, da ich zuerst den alten Player verkaufen würde. Das ist der Vorteil wenn man ein gefragtes Modell besitzt.
Der Doge wäre für mich auch nur interessant, wenn berechtigter Grund zu der Annahme besteht, dass er besser als mein Opera klingt.
Es ist wie so oft im Leben: Das bessere ist des guten Feind.
Viele Grüße,
Verfasst: Sa 28. Mai 2005, 23:32
von Tubes
Hoer-wege modifiziert nicht nur, sondern verkauft auch Geräte.
Verfasst: Sa 28. Mai 2005, 23:53
von Tom_H
Hoiner, ich habe noch einen hervorragenden "Nicht" Röhren Player hier rumstehen. (siehe Profil) Der steht demnächst zum Verkauf.
Mittlerweile bin ich absolut davon überzeugt, dass Röhren Player schöner klingen..........
Viele Grüße,
Verfasst: Sa 28. Mai 2005, 23:57
von Tom_H
Sch...e Martin, die Fotos fehlen.
Mit sommerlichen Grüßen,
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 00:07
von stentor
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 00:33
von Thargor
Hi Stentor,
das sieht ja mal stylish aus.... nett. Kannst Du auch was zum Klang sagen?
Viele Grüße Thargor.
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 08:11
von Tom_H
Hallo Stentor,
willkommen hier im Forum
ich interessiere mich sehr für dieses Teil und überlege ernsthaft ob ich meinen Opera gegen den Doge 6201 tausche. Hast Du evtl. weitere Infos zu dem Doge?
Vielen Dank,

Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 20:44
von Perka
Ich habe ein Doge 6201 bestellt und kannst gleich
etwas zum den klang sagen. Ich habe auch ein
operaudio Droplet 5.0
(sorry for my german but I'm swedish)
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 20:46
von Thedude11
das design des doge ist wirklich der hammer
vergleich zum opera 5.0 ist sicherlich sehr interessant.
wie lange sich das LUA wohl anschaut was da in china so passiert ?
Gruss
Gerd
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 20:51
von Tom_H
Hi Perka,
a very warm welcome to our small forum. I hope you enjoy your time here and you have a lot of fun.
To me it is very interesting to get some input from scandinavian audiophiles. Especially on components which are not that much spreaded here in germany, like the Doge 6201. Do you actually own one of these or did you just order?
Looking forward to hearing from you?
BR
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 20:54
von Tom_H
Thedude11 hat geschrieben:wie lange sich das LUA wohl anschaut was da in china so passiert ?
Gruss
Gerd
Gerd, da sollte man schon zuschlagen, so lange es noch geht. Denk doch nur an den Reference 2.3.........

der heute nicht mehr verfügbar ist.
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 20:57
von stentor
Sorry my friends but I don't speak German, I'm from this "stupid" country which voted "no" to the constitution and i'm very shame.
I ordered this CDP one week ago but unfortunately it arrived with a broken tube as you can see in the pictures so I could not really test it.
I hesitated much with the CONSONANCE (same price more and less) but my salesman told me that he has done a a-b control test in the hifi arcade with the bumps.
He told me that all agree the appassionado wins even the Guy who is the dealer for consonance.
I had a cayin CDT -17 A two month ago but i sold it, even with a tube in less I find that it sounds better.
If you want more pictures, don't hesitate.
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 21:06
von Tom_H
Hi Stentor,
I am very interested in the Doge 6201. Presently I own a Reference CD 2.3 and I am wondering wether the Doge sounds better, or not? In this forum you will find a lot of Cayin CDT 17A owners. For all of us it would be very helpfull to read about the sonic properties of the Doge. Also a lot of photos are very welcome.
Where did you buy the Doge from and what experience did you make? I remember that one of the tubes was broken. How was the condition of the machine when it arrived at your site?
BR
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 21:20
von Erzkanzler
Hi Perka,
great to hear from you again. Remembering you were the one who gave the first reports about the Cayin 17A last year.
Looking forward to hear from your experience.
Best regards
Martin
Verfasst: Di 31. Mai 2005, 21:52
von stentor
Verfasst: Mi 1. Jun 2005, 02:29
von China
Hello Perka,
I'm also very interested in the comparism between the Opera and the Doge.
Are you able to test the Opera with a symmetric connection ? Since this would be my preferred way of interconnecting.
Regards.
Verfasst: Mi 1. Jun 2005, 09:58
von Tom_H
Ouch Stentor. It seems that you really had bad luck with your shipping. What was your choosen transnspot methode and who was the seller? Do you have any chance to get some compensation from the shipping insurance?
Was the broken tube the one and only defect or did you experience also others?
BR
6201 vs droplet
Verfasst: Mi 1. Jun 2005, 10:55
von Perka
Tom_H, thanks for the warm welcome. The 6201 will arrive today or tomorrow hopefully.
Erkanzler, Nice to meet you here again!
China, the Lavardin IT is unbalaced but the P360 is balanced (and also single ended)so I can compare the opera balanced out with the Doge 6201 single ended out.
Anyway, a report of the differences between droplet and doge 6201 will follow. It will be interesting to see if there will be clearly a winner of the two or if it will rather come down to personal taste whichever you choose.
As a curiousity I can mention that here in Scandinavia we have the 2.2 mk3 (released to have Scandinavia as test market for coming models). It’s basicly the 2.2 but they have skipped the balanced outputs as they think the sound gets even better with shorter signal path, they have put in a new superclock (maybe the same as droplet), better OP –amps and better output capacitors. I have actually had this machine at home for a week and it’s a tremendously well sounding and analogue sounding cd player. I was very near to buy it as I find it a lot in head of competion for this small money (actually costs only 1400euro as introduction offer from the Scandinavian distributor who is a very nice and good person to do business with). My alternative was actually some of the new Accuphase (imported from hongkong) that I found better in the higher frequencies than the 2.2 mk3 but of course 3-5 times the money.
Verfasst: Mi 1. Jun 2005, 11:10
von China
Hello Perka,
sounds great.

I'm looking forward to your report.

Verfasst: Mi 1. Jun 2005, 12:54
von Tom_H
Juri, kennst Du den beschriebenen Opera 2.2 mk3 aus China??